I much rather watch a show that covers a specific topic intelligently and well, rather than a show that tries to "expand their audience". There's already no shortage of those. Seems like most people here agree with me (see previous comments). I think the internet is more about people getting content dedicated exactly to what they want. You're trying to impose a broadcast television mentality in which shows have to appeal to the maximum amount of people (and typically get dumbed down in the process). So yes, I guess it's not a "stupid" comment. Just an extremely typical one I 'd expect to hear from a some tv producer obsessing over demographics. That's why I watch my shows online now. And so does eveyone else I know. Good bye TV! It was nice knowing you! Have fun with Mitiziboyd and my grandparents!
I liked this show. The production value seems a lot higher than most video game shows I've seen online. Maybe because it's more of a historical documentary type show than a "what's new this week" show which is cool.
Oh yeah, the last comment is pretty stupid. It's a show about video games. What did you expect? I don't like NASCAR personally, but I'd be a moron if I complained that a NASCAR show is "boring if you don't like car racing".
Good show! Keep em coming.
Splatterfan: Oh yeah, dude, you called it. It feels grrrrreat to be right. I almost can't even tell you how good it feels. Just awesome! Man, you should totally try it sometime. Oh wait, but I guess you'd have to be right about someting first. Hey, I'm on my computer because I'm still at work and it's 5am in NYC. And work's fun, but this is fun, too! A better question is what are you doing up? Actually, the best question is why are you here at all? I came because I like this show a lot, and I stayed to mingle with the crazies. But, what kind of people rag on show and then hang out here all day and night? Man, that is just bizarre. I knew this fat girl once who didn't smoke or drink, but she'd always come with us to bars and then complain all night about the cigarette smoke and boozers. I don't remember exactly what happened, but one night at some point one of us finally turned to her and just said, "what the hell are you doing here?! You don't like it! Nobody wants you here! You're just f-ing it up for th rest of us! Just go home!" And then home she went. So, if an ugly, fat chick I knew in college can do it, so can you, splatterboy. Actually, splatterdude, I don't want to fight with you because you're not really who I was making fun of before. I was mainly making fun of the dorky arcade fanboys and coin-op shills who insist that coin-op video games are still kicking when everyone but Helen Keller can plainly see they're not. And the only reason that Helen Keller can't see it is because she's dead. Were she still alive, even she would see that arcades are just the video game industry's poopy diaper. And we're all grown up now and using the big boy potty at home. But, man, it is kinda weird that you're hanging in here just arguing with people. I mean, it's a light, fun internet show that a bunch of (I'm guessing) college dudes make. This isn't going to be transcribed and taught in public schools or worked into the president's next state of the union address. And it's actually pretty much right on, and so are the other episodes. I think it might be time to let it go.
Oh man, it's hilarious to watch all (a) people who work in coin op and (2) the total nerd arcade fanboys get so twisted up on this message board. If coin-op was doing as well as it was, would you really have time to come on this site and whine? And for the arcade fanboys, man, what proof do you guys need? Geez, it's like reading dennis kucinich suppoters online. "yeah, america's with us! we're gonna win the white house in 2008! We'll, dominate every message board! There's millions of us out there!" And then election day comes, and everybody votes, and he get's 1% . And then you realize it was always just 30 losers online that found each other. That's all it ever was. America didn't agree with you. No one agreed with you. It was always just you and your small circle of nerdy friends working each other up online in fantasy land. Step away from the computer. Look outide your window. Note the lack of arcades around you. Arcade domination is done. Get. Over. It. But the best part is watching everyone swinging at non-existent ghosts. The show NEVER said it was about the coin-op amusement industry, but only about video games. The show is not global in the least, but talks the entire time only about american culture, grosses, and purchasing. And it's totally 100% right on. Actually, I'd love to see a Japanese verison of this show, and get that side, too. Hey "editor", maybe you can make one since you have sooooo much more tv knowledge than everyone else here apparently. Oh whoops. You're not making shows. Oh, ok. Well then, I suppose people who actually do that for living will have to do it for you. Oh, speaking of credentials. Has anyone here ever actually worked on video games for a living? Anyone at all? Hey, wait a minute, I have. Anyone else? No? Just me here? Oh ok, well then I'm gonna go back to doing work for Microsoft and SOE now on games that will sell millions here in the US, while you precious little band of geniuses continue to insists that arcades are still kicking 100%. And to the neo geo fanboys. Yeah, I owned a neo geo. It was freakin sweet! I was also the only person within a 200 mile radius that had one. Maybe if the internet was around back then, I could've found others. And then we could sit aorund all day online convincing ourselves that everyone else also owed a neo geo, like you guys have done.
Doodah: Just admit you made a mistake. (1)You said 6 billion, it turned out to be 2.2 billion. and I'll concede I got the difference wrong between 1.1 and 2.2 billion. You didn't even try to read it, and only went back and read it now because you got called out. OK. So, let's see all the facts now that they're out. 20 billion in 1980. 2.2 billion now. As of this morming, the Consumer price index inflation calculation was running at 267% from 1980 to 2006 which means that aracades are grossing roughly 4.11% of what they did in 1980 in comparitive dollars. What did I say in my last post? 3%. Ok, i was wrong. It's actually 4.11%. But, I think the point's proven. And as for the term "muli-billion". Well, the current grosses are 2.2 billion now, but in 1980, that 2.2 billion would''ve been only 824 million- not even 1 billion- again just over 4% of arcade's previous grosses. Did you read the rest of the report I cited? Nothing but decline, year after year. Look, I like arcades, too! But we're all gonna have to face the facts that it's really just a relatively niche market now that's not even 1/20 of what it used to be in the US and that consoles dominate. (2) again, you complain about childish taunts, but then go on to hurl insults in the rest of your post. Chill, dude. I totally respect that Kevin Williams has joined us. But you have to calm down and admit that arcades just ain't what the used to be first. Then maybe we can discuss what they are in reality. 4.11% apparaently. (3) I think it's pretty obvious this show's about video games, not coin-op in general. C'mon, amigo, you're just cluthcing at straws with that one. I also think it's also pretty obvious that this episode is about the american market, since EVERY number and figure they quote in the show (and the other episodes) are for the US market. Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's pretty onvious you love arcades, but you're simply a minority now. Like the girl in the show said at the end, "it's sad. But it happened."
Doodah, wow that was awesome! The link you posted proves my point EXACTLY! read the report. Arcades: down 27% from last year. Street locations down 41% from last year. Thanks for the great link! Oh yeah, and that number of 6 billion dollars includes (among other things) cranes, darts, fooseball, vending, jukeboxes, kiddie rides, pinball, pool, shuffleboard, video poker, cigarette machines, and air hockey. The 6 billion number you cite is for ALL COIN-OP VENDING, not arcade video games, genius. How hilarious are you? You sent a link, that completely disproves yourself with a number of 6 billion that has nothing to do with arcade games, and, best of all, you didn't even read the report! And then you get all high and mightly with your talk of crow and ketchup. Ha ha ha ha ha! Priceless! If you actually bothered to read the report, you'd see arcade games grossed just barely over 1 billion last year. Harldy "multi-billion" and hardly what they did in 1980 at 20 billion a year (in 1980 dollars, no less, so double it really). That means arcades are grossing probably about 3% of what they did in thir heydey, adjusted for inflation. Dude, you're going to have to just accept it. Arcades are dead. Maybe not 100%, but they're dead in the same way that vinyl records are. They exist, and some people love them. But they've largely been completely replaced. I mean, I can appreciate that you and your friends still love them. Hey, I have thousands upon thousands of hours of memories in the arcades. But that's over now. And let me also say LOL, LOL, LOL! DId you just complain about my personal attacks? When you starting insulting everyone from the beginning as stupid americans, called the creators of the shows names, called the people in the show names, told everyone to get thair heads out of their asses, and then posted a link to a message board where everyone there did nothing but insult everyone on the whole show including trying to spam and leave nasty comments on the cast memebers of this show's personal myspaces? And now you're crying like a little baby about personal attacks? You already one of your posts deleted. And now your trying to pose as some sort of angel. Administrator: please boot doodah408. I appreciate his enthusiam for arcades but he's only here to make trouble.
Wow, doodah, thanks for the link! You've proven to me the power of the internet- that for every useless, lonely, no talent loser out there with nothing better to do than complain, there's another 50 who can find each other! Whoo hoo! Troll Party! Wow, you guys with nothing better to do are, like, really cool. Oh, by the way, you never refuted any of my points. All you and your loser friends have done is throw insults. Once again, we're all sorry no one cares about arcades anymore. You're just going to have to get over it. Why are you even here? I logged in today to see if a new episode of the show was up and enjoy myself. The fact that you hate this show, but you keep coming back every few hours is pretty pathetic. See my earlier comments abouts finding a life for yourself.
doohah408: Wow, you are quite a combo: thin skinned and rock stupid. (1) yes, the internet's a globel medium, but gosh, I think it's okay for one culture to discuss their own perspective of how a phenomenon affected that country, in their own language, and on their own programs. (2) This show didn't make any claims about the global industry. Did you even watch this show? It's about what happened in america. And other people from other countries are free to make their own shows about their country's experience. In fact, why don't you make one, since you hate americans so much? Oh, that's right. Because, you're just a message board troll with no talent. (3) What are you even arguing about in the first place? You accuse the show's creators of having their facts wrong. What facts are you talking about, retard? The arcades were really big in the US. Then they died. And they died for the exact reasons they stated. Unless you can show me that arcades are still an annual multi-billion industry in the US, I'm going to have to conclude that this show is 100% correct and you are simply some loser who's still bitter about it. (4) I've seen this show hosted on other videogame websites, and, lo and behold, there you were arguing with everyone and being obnoxious with your hatred of console games. Didn't I tell you to go get a life? Please, dude. Find something else to do. Arcades are dead in the US. We're all sorry you're upset about that and hate consoles. We like consoles. Now, please go away. Or better yet, write a letter to Namco or Midway and see if they'll bring arcades back just so you'll stop crying.
I think they covered the differences between the home and arcade formats exactly as you said, but you obviously just prefer arcade games and the people in this show (like most americans) don't . And yeah, arcades are doing better in Japan, but this isn't a Japanese show is it? It's clearly a show about American cultural gaming history. And the arcades are dead in America, dude. Dead, dead, dead. Consoles are here to stay. Get over it. And try and pick up a life while you're out there.
Play Value - Rise of Nintendo
I much rather watch a show that covers a specific topic intelligently and well, rather than a show that tries to "expand their audience". There's already no shortage of those. Seems like most people here agree with me (see previous comments). I think the internet is more about people getting content dedicated exactly to what they want. You're trying to impose a broadcast television mentality in which shows have to appeal to the maximum amount of people (and typically get dumbed down in the process). So yes, I guess it's not a "stupid" comment. Just an extremely typical one I 'd expect to hear from a some tv producer obsessing over demographics. That's why I watch my shows online now. And so does eveyone else I know. Good bye TV! It was nice knowing you! Have fun with Mitiziboyd and my grandparents!Play Value - Rise of Nintendo
I liked this show. The production value seems a lot higher than most video game shows I've seen online. Maybe because it's more of a historical documentary type show than a "what's new this week" show which is cool. Oh yeah, the last comment is pretty stupid. It's a show about video games. What did you expect? I don't like NASCAR personally, but I'd be a moron if I complained that a NASCAR show is "boring if you don't like car racing". Good show! Keep em coming.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
Splatterfan: Oh yeah, dude, you called it. It feels grrrrreat to be right. I almost can't even tell you how good it feels. Just awesome! Man, you should totally try it sometime. Oh wait, but I guess you'd have to be right about someting first. Hey, I'm on my computer because I'm still at work and it's 5am in NYC. And work's fun, but this is fun, too! A better question is what are you doing up? Actually, the best question is why are you here at all? I came because I like this show a lot, and I stayed to mingle with the crazies. But, what kind of people rag on show and then hang out here all day and night? Man, that is just bizarre. I knew this fat girl once who didn't smoke or drink, but she'd always come with us to bars and then complain all night about the cigarette smoke and boozers. I don't remember exactly what happened, but one night at some point one of us finally turned to her and just said, "what the hell are you doing here?! You don't like it! Nobody wants you here! You're just f-ing it up for th rest of us! Just go home!" And then home she went. So, if an ugly, fat chick I knew in college can do it, so can you, splatterboy. Actually, splatterdude, I don't want to fight with you because you're not really who I was making fun of before. I was mainly making fun of the dorky arcade fanboys and coin-op shills who insist that coin-op video games are still kicking when everyone but Helen Keller can plainly see they're not. And the only reason that Helen Keller can't see it is because she's dead. Were she still alive, even she would see that arcades are just the video game industry's poopy diaper. And we're all grown up now and using the big boy potty at home. But, man, it is kinda weird that you're hanging in here just arguing with people. I mean, it's a light, fun internet show that a bunch of (I'm guessing) college dudes make. This isn't going to be transcribed and taught in public schools or worked into the president's next state of the union address. And it's actually pretty much right on, and so are the other episodes. I think it might be time to let it go.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
Oh man, it's hilarious to watch all (a) people who work in coin op and (2) the total nerd arcade fanboys get so twisted up on this message board. If coin-op was doing as well as it was, would you really have time to come on this site and whine? And for the arcade fanboys, man, what proof do you guys need? Geez, it's like reading dennis kucinich suppoters online. "yeah, america's with us! we're gonna win the white house in 2008! We'll, dominate every message board! There's millions of us out there!" And then election day comes, and everybody votes, and he get's 1% . And then you realize it was always just 30 losers online that found each other. That's all it ever was. America didn't agree with you. No one agreed with you. It was always just you and your small circle of nerdy friends working each other up online in fantasy land. Step away from the computer. Look outide your window. Note the lack of arcades around you. Arcade domination is done. Get. Over. It. But the best part is watching everyone swinging at non-existent ghosts. The show NEVER said it was about the coin-op amusement industry, but only about video games. The show is not global in the least, but talks the entire time only about american culture, grosses, and purchasing. And it's totally 100% right on. Actually, I'd love to see a Japanese verison of this show, and get that side, too. Hey "editor", maybe you can make one since you have sooooo much more tv knowledge than everyone else here apparently. Oh whoops. You're not making shows. Oh, ok. Well then, I suppose people who actually do that for living will have to do it for you. Oh, speaking of credentials. Has anyone here ever actually worked on video games for a living? Anyone at all? Hey, wait a minute, I have. Anyone else? No? Just me here? Oh ok, well then I'm gonna go back to doing work for Microsoft and SOE now on games that will sell millions here in the US, while you precious little band of geniuses continue to insists that arcades are still kicking 100%. And to the neo geo fanboys. Yeah, I owned a neo geo. It was freakin sweet! I was also the only person within a 200 mile radius that had one. Maybe if the internet was around back then, I could've found others. And then we could sit aorund all day online convincing ourselves that everyone else also owed a neo geo, like you guys have done.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
Doodah: Just admit you made a mistake. (1)You said 6 billion, it turned out to be 2.2 billion. and I'll concede I got the difference wrong between 1.1 and 2.2 billion. You didn't even try to read it, and only went back and read it now because you got called out. OK. So, let's see all the facts now that they're out. 20 billion in 1980. 2.2 billion now. As of this morming, the Consumer price index inflation calculation was running at 267% from 1980 to 2006 which means that aracades are grossing roughly 4.11% of what they did in 1980 in comparitive dollars. What did I say in my last post? 3%. Ok, i was wrong. It's actually 4.11%. But, I think the point's proven. And as for the term "muli-billion". Well, the current grosses are 2.2 billion now, but in 1980, that 2.2 billion would''ve been only 824 million- not even 1 billion- again just over 4% of arcade's previous grosses. Did you read the rest of the report I cited? Nothing but decline, year after year. Look, I like arcades, too! But we're all gonna have to face the facts that it's really just a relatively niche market now that's not even 1/20 of what it used to be in the US and that consoles dominate. (2) again, you complain about childish taunts, but then go on to hurl insults in the rest of your post. Chill, dude. I totally respect that Kevin Williams has joined us. But you have to calm down and admit that arcades just ain't what the used to be first. Then maybe we can discuss what they are in reality. 4.11% apparaently. (3) I think it's pretty obvious this show's about video games, not coin-op in general. C'mon, amigo, you're just cluthcing at straws with that one. I also think it's also pretty obvious that this episode is about the american market, since EVERY number and figure they quote in the show (and the other episodes) are for the US market. Look, I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's pretty onvious you love arcades, but you're simply a minority now. Like the girl in the show said at the end, "it's sad. But it happened."Play Value - The Death of Arcades
Doodah, wow that was awesome! The link you posted proves my point EXACTLY! read the report. Arcades: down 27% from last year. Street locations down 41% from last year. Thanks for the great link! Oh yeah, and that number of 6 billion dollars includes (among other things) cranes, darts, fooseball, vending, jukeboxes, kiddie rides, pinball, pool, shuffleboard, video poker, cigarette machines, and air hockey. The 6 billion number you cite is for ALL COIN-OP VENDING, not arcade video games, genius. How hilarious are you? You sent a link, that completely disproves yourself with a number of 6 billion that has nothing to do with arcade games, and, best of all, you didn't even read the report! And then you get all high and mightly with your talk of crow and ketchup. Ha ha ha ha ha! Priceless! If you actually bothered to read the report, you'd see arcade games grossed just barely over 1 billion last year. Harldy "multi-billion" and hardly what they did in 1980 at 20 billion a year (in 1980 dollars, no less, so double it really). That means arcades are grossing probably about 3% of what they did in thir heydey, adjusted for inflation. Dude, you're going to have to just accept it. Arcades are dead. Maybe not 100%, but they're dead in the same way that vinyl records are. They exist, and some people love them. But they've largely been completely replaced. I mean, I can appreciate that you and your friends still love them. Hey, I have thousands upon thousands of hours of memories in the arcades. But that's over now. And let me also say LOL, LOL, LOL! DId you just complain about my personal attacks? When you starting insulting everyone from the beginning as stupid americans, called the creators of the shows names, called the people in the show names, told everyone to get thair heads out of their asses, and then posted a link to a message board where everyone there did nothing but insult everyone on the whole show including trying to spam and leave nasty comments on the cast memebers of this show's personal myspaces? And now you're crying like a little baby about personal attacks? You already one of your posts deleted. And now your trying to pose as some sort of angel. Administrator: please boot doodah408. I appreciate his enthusiam for arcades but he's only here to make trouble.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
Wow, doodah, thanks for the link! You've proven to me the power of the internet- that for every useless, lonely, no talent loser out there with nothing better to do than complain, there's another 50 who can find each other! Whoo hoo! Troll Party! Wow, you guys with nothing better to do are, like, really cool. Oh, by the way, you never refuted any of my points. All you and your loser friends have done is throw insults. Once again, we're all sorry no one cares about arcades anymore. You're just going to have to get over it. Why are you even here? I logged in today to see if a new episode of the show was up and enjoy myself. The fact that you hate this show, but you keep coming back every few hours is pretty pathetic. See my earlier comments abouts finding a life for yourself.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
doohah408: Wow, you are quite a combo: thin skinned and rock stupid. (1) yes, the internet's a globel medium, but gosh, I think it's okay for one culture to discuss their own perspective of how a phenomenon affected that country, in their own language, and on their own programs. (2) This show didn't make any claims about the global industry. Did you even watch this show? It's about what happened in america. And other people from other countries are free to make their own shows about their country's experience. In fact, why don't you make one, since you hate americans so much? Oh, that's right. Because, you're just a message board troll with no talent. (3) What are you even arguing about in the first place? You accuse the show's creators of having their facts wrong. What facts are you talking about, retard? The arcades were really big in the US. Then they died. And they died for the exact reasons they stated. Unless you can show me that arcades are still an annual multi-billion industry in the US, I'm going to have to conclude that this show is 100% correct and you are simply some loser who's still bitter about it. (4) I've seen this show hosted on other videogame websites, and, lo and behold, there you were arguing with everyone and being obnoxious with your hatred of console games. Didn't I tell you to go get a life? Please, dude. Find something else to do. Arcades are dead in the US. We're all sorry you're upset about that and hate consoles. We like consoles. Now, please go away. Or better yet, write a letter to Namco or Midway and see if they'll bring arcades back just so you'll stop crying.Play Value - The Death of Arcades
I think they covered the differences between the home and arcade formats exactly as you said, but you obviously just prefer arcade games and the people in this show (like most americans) don't . And yeah, arcades are doing better in Japan, but this isn't a Japanese show is it? It's clearly a show about American cultural gaming history. And the arcades are dead in America, dude. Dead, dead, dead. Consoles are here to stay. Get over it. And try and pick up a life while you're out there.